7/23/2023 0 Comments M1ms18 flashlight![]() The LEDs are pushed harder than the MS12, meaning the light is less efficient overall.Ĥ. And battery life would be absolutely horrible at full power.ģ. Even if they used Samsung 30Ts, these cells couldn’t handle 1200W+ of power for more than a few seconds. Imalent tends to overrate their lights by a significant margin ever since the DX80, getting a bit worse with the MS12.Ģ. It’s obvious it’s not going to sustain 1200W of output.Īnd it is not going to get close to 100k lumens for a few reasons.ġ. With an optical efficiency of say, 90%, that would mean each LED would have to output 6250 lumens. Pushing 100000 lumens out of 18x XHP70.2 means the LEDs must output at least 5600 lumens. Soon we’ll get there.Well, I think it doesn’t look actually that good. Hoping for the industry and LED/Laser scientists to just take a couple of steps further every year. If you can produce a 300 000 Lumen light that’s more efficient than ms18, then you will have no trouble to produce a 30 000 Lumen torch at the same efficiency as the 10 000 Lumen flashlights we have today. Who knows, in five years maybe the tech allows for equally steps forward in Lumen. LEP, Or Laser Emitted Phosphorus is one step in which you light up a luminescent phosphorus substrate with an energy efficient laser to produce high Candelas at the moment. What I meant (behind the words) Was that I was hoping for things to evolve like many other things in the semiconductor industry. Not to mention the heat would cause an immediate ramp down.ġ5K lumens is think it the most that can really work well. I have to ask, why would you want that? It’s only gonna kill the battery in 10 seconds. Efficiency will certainly improve over time still, and maybe in five years we will have a 300 000 lumen flashlight that’s more efficient than ms18. I’m looking forward to the future when you can walk into Walmart and buy a pesky flood laser at 250 000 lumen for 29.99 bucks. Put 4 of them in one large head flashlight and you have 50,000 lumens for half an hour on just one battery. Thats 12,500 lumens, lasting 2 hours on one 46800. But lets say a 2 inch by 2 inch LED gives us 250lm/W at 50W. They may end up being an inch wide or wider to give us such excellent lumens. The XHP-70s biggest advancement may be its size, we may find future LEDs can’t fit 20mm mcpcs. Not that it is like CPUs since Moore’s law does not apply but it does advance. I absolutely accept I could be wrong and maybe there’s a company out there who will blow us all away with a new kind of emitter that’s just as bright as an LED size-for-size, but with a good bit less heat generation. Someone is bound to try doing quad channel, I’m sure. One good sign of that apex is that focus in the community has devoted a lot of time to other factors like throw vs. The flashlights available are so inexpensive relative for what they do today compared to years past. For the hand held format, flashlights that can be stowed on your person (holster, pocket, etc.), we’re at a phenomenal place. I always come back to thinking about where we’ve been and how far we’ve come with LED & driver tech. The Imalent MS18 and others of that scale design really push the limit. Unless emitter manufacturers can come up with some other element/compound that can be substituted with much lower heat characteristics, this continues to be the limiter on feasible maximum brightness for handheld flashlights. So LEP doesn’t alleviate the heat problem that LED suffers. LEP (Light Emitting Plasma) is a form of fluorescent lighting (all fluorescent lights use a plasma). I’m not sure if we can equate LED tech progression like CPU’s… where after X amount of time, performance is doubled, and the curve just continues on and on, year after year… The point I was trying to make is that it's absolutely "enough". There's no way I would upgrade.Īddendum: and just to be clear, I absolutely LOVE my MS18W. For my needs, anything above the 22,000 lumen setting would almost never be of any use. And that's with an MS18"W" with the warmer color tint. Just my two cents, I don't see a need for 100,000'ish lumens since it just blinds you if there is too much dust or the slightest amount of mist in the air. So do they need to push it further? If they did, would people buy it? Would MS18 owners run out and upgrade? I can definitely say that I wouldn't. I don't think a lot of people buy lights like this nor do I think it really serves a legitimate purpose unless you're in the minority of people who need extremely high sustained light levels out of a handheld light. Is there a market for it? Imalent already has the undisputed champ which I believe was simply a pissing contest with Acebeam. If there is a market for it, someone will make it.
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